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  • Name Helias du Maine 
    Suffix de la Flèche, Lord of Château-du-Loire 
    Nickname Count of Maine 
    Born 1060  Maine-et-Loire, Pays de la Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christened Seigneur, De la Fleche 1090/1110 Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Christening Seigneur, De la Fleche 1090/1110 Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Christening Seigneur, De la Fleche 1090/1110 Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Name Also called 'Helias de Baugency' 'Helias of /Maine de la Flèche or de Baugency' and 'Helie' 
    Name Comte de Maine 
    Name Count Of Maine Helie 
    Name Helie 
    Occupation Comte, du Maine, Sieur, de la Flèche-en-Anjou 
    Occupation Greve av Maine 
    Occupation Greve av Maine 
    Occupation Lord of Château-du-Loire and Count of Maine, Count of Maine, LORD OF LA FLECHE, COUNT OF MAINE, Greve av Maine, Greve i Maine, Comte, du Maine, Sieur, de la Flèche-en-Anjou, was the Count of Maine, Conde de Maine 
    Died 11 Jul 1110  Angers, Maine-et-Loire, Anjou, France Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried Notre Dame at Le Mans Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Address:
    Choir of the Abbey Church
    Le Mans Le Mans
    France 
    Notes 
    • {geni:about_me} Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine and repudiated wife of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, it being suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

      Hélie (Helias) purchased the county of Maine from his cousin count Hughes V in 1092 [OV viii, 11 (vol. 4, pp. 192-9)]. His assumption of the title of count can be dated between 29 June 1092, when Hugues V was still count [Latouche (1910), 148 (#42)], and 27 July of the same year, when he subscribed a charter of Foulques IV le Réchin, count of Anjou [ibid., 149 (#43)]. Hélie obtained the lordship of Château-du-Loir on the death of his father-in-law Gervaise II, lord of Château-du-Loir. On his death in 1110, both possessions passed to his daughter Éremburge and her husband Fulk of Anjou, becoming a part of the growing Angevin holdings.

      http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/helia000.htm

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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine and repudiated wife of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, it being suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      Sources

      * FranceBalade: les seigneurs du Maine.

      * Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: comtes du Maine.

      * Hélias de la Flèche.

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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine and repudiated wife of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, it being suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

      Hélie (Helias) purchased the county of Maine from his cousin count Hughes V in 1092 [OV viii, 11 (vol. 4, pp. 192-9)]. His assumption of the title of count can be dated between 29 June 1092, when Hugues V was still count [Latouche (1910), 148 (#42)], and 27 July of the same year, when he subscribed a charter of Foulques IV le Réchin, count of Anjou [ibid., 149 (#43)]. Hélie obtained the lordship of Château-du-Loir on the death of his father-in-law Gervaise II, lord of Château-du-Loir. On his death in 1110, both possessions passed to his daughter Éremburge and her husband Fulk of Anjou, becoming a part of the growing Angevin holdings.

      http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/helia000.htm

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

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      Elias I of Maine

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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of 'William of Poitou' and relict of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, as the name and parentage match that of Alfonso's first wife, but she last appears thirty years earlier. It has been suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      [edit] Sources

      FranceBalade: les seigneurs du Maine.

      Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: comtes du Maine.

      Hélias de la Flèche.

      Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine"

      Categories: 1110 deaths | Counts of Maine

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie or Helias), called "de la Flèche," or "de Beaugency," was the Count of Maine from 1093. In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, Elias inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Duke Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure for the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus (King William II of England), Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine.

      See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine for more information.
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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine and repudiated wife of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, it being suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

      Hélie (Helias) purchased the county of Maine from his cousin count Hughes V in 1092 [OV viii, 11 (vol. 4, pp. 192-9)]. His assumption of the title of count can be dated between 29 June 1092, when Hugues V was still count [Latouche (1910), 148 (#42)], and 27 July of the same year, when he subscribed a charter of Foulques IV le Réchin, count of Anjou [ibid., 149 (#43)]. Hélie obtained the lordship of Château-du-Loir on the death of his father-in-law Gervaise II, lord of Château-du-Loir. On his death in 1110, both possessions passed to his daughter Éremburge and her husband Fulk of Anjou, becoming a part of the growing Angevin holdings.

      http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/helia000.htm

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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine and repudiated wife of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, it being suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      Sources

      * FranceBalade: les seigneurs du Maine.
      * Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: comtes du Maine.
      * Hélias de la Flèche.
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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine and repudiated wife of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, it being suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

      Hélie (Helias) purchased the county of Maine from his cousin count Hughes V in 1092 [OV viii, 11 (vol. 4, pp. 192-9)]. His assumption of the title of count can be dated between 29 June 1092, when Hugues V was still count [Latouche (1910), 148 (#42)], and 27 July of the same year, when he subscribed a charter of Foulques IV le Réchin, count of Anjou [ibid., 149 (#43)]. Hélie obtained the lordship of Château-du-Loir on the death of his father-in-law Gervaise II, lord of Château-du-Loir. On his death in 1110, both possessions passed to his daughter Éremburge and her husband Fulk of Anjou, becoming a part of the growing Angevin holdings.

      http://sbaldw.home.mindspring.com/hproject/prov/helia000.htm

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

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      Elias I of Maine

      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Jump to: navigation, search

      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and his wife Paula, daughter of Herbert I, Count of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of 'William of Poitou' and relict of Alfonso VI of Castile. This is perhaps confused, as the name and parentage match that of Alfonso's first wife, but she last appears thirty years earlier. It has been suggested that the true bride was Alfonso's widow Beatrice.

      [edit] Sources

      FranceBalade: les seigneurs du Maine.

      Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: comtes du Maine.

      Hélias de la Flèche.

      Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine"

      Categories: 1110 deaths | Counts of Maine

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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine

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      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie or Helias), called "de la Flèche," or "de Beaugency," was the Count of Maine from 1093. In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, Elias inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Duke Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure for the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus (King William II of England), Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. In 1109, says Orderic Vitalis, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine.

      See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elias_I_of_Maine for more information.

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    • Source #1: Elizabeth Hallam, ed, "The Plantagenet Chronicles" (New York: Weidenfeld & Nicolson, 1986), pp. 19-24.

      Source #2: Frederick Lewis Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700" - Seventh Edition, with additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., assisted by David Faris (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1995), p. 106

      Count of Maine
    • Helias of Maine, Henry I and the Importance of Friendship
      In 1106 Henry I, King of England defeated his brother Robert Curthose, duke of Normandy, in battle near Tinchebrai. Yet the coup de grace during the battle was delivered not by Henry himself or by his familia, but by the troops of Maine and Anjou under the command of Helias, Count of Maine. Given the pattern of hostility existing between Normansand Manceaux since the 1060s, it seems quite interesting and not a little odd to find Count Helias providing the crucial military assistance that allowed Henry, the youngest son of the conqueror, to make himself master of Normandy. Why, then, would Helias have chosen to help any son of the Conqueror to enhance his power? Many possible answers tothis question exist. Among the several that I consider are an explanation that sees their relationship based upon vertical bonds of lordship and vassalage, one that favors self-centered considerations of political interest, and one that acknowledges the importance of the type of warrior ethos exemplified by the Song of Roland and other epics - an ethos that emphasized aristocratic warfare and companionship. Yet, even while acknowledging the presence of these and other factors, I argue that the most important reason for Helias' presence at Tinchebrai in 1106 was the fact that he and Henry were very good friends.
      Friendship between secular figures is a dicey issue, however, since the brevity and nature of medieval sources often makes it difficult to distinguish friendship from common interest. Nevertheless, the evidence from Norman, Angevin and Manceaux chronicles suggests that Helias had established close personal connections with both Henry I and Geoffrey Martel (the eldest son and presumed heir of Count Fulk Réchin of Anjou, and like Helias an ally during Henry's Norman campaigns) during the tumultuous warfare that took place along the Norman-Manceau border during the late 1090s. I argue that these three men shared a common experience at that time as noble, but relatively powerless young men - men who, not yet entrusted with real authority, had to fight to retain their birthrights. In this sense their experiences in the 1090s were similar to Duby's juvenes, youths who had not yet settled down into marriage and responsibility and who formed bands of "friends" who loved each other "like brothers."
      The presence of Helias (and of Geoffrey Martel) in Henry I's Norman campaigns may thus be explained by the presence of close personal relations, ones described by various chroniclers as bonds of friendship andintimacy. I conclude the paper by suggesting that relationships basedupon such intangibles as emotion, personality, and honor were extremely important - as important, perhaps as the structural elements of politics that are so commonly emphasized. After all, decades of war in Maine were ended by the establishment of a personal relationship based upon familiaritas and common experience, not by a vertical bond of lordship, not by a marriage alliance, not even by geo- political interests. This is not to deny that social and political structures made a difference - it surely mattered that Henry was a king and Helias a count;it is, however, to argue that any attempt to understand the nature ofaristocratic society and of political events during this period must also wrestle with the slippery intangibles and must accept and acknowledge the role of personality and friendship.
    • Helias of Maine, Henry I and the Importance of Friendship
      In 1106 Henry I, King of England defeated his brother Robert Curthose, duke of Normandy, in battle near Tinchebrai. Yet the coup de grace during the battle was delivered not by Henry himself or by his familia, but by the troops of Maine and Anjou under the command of Helias, Count of Maine. Given the pattern of hostility existing between Normansand Manceaux since the 1060s, it seems quite interesting and not a little odd to find Count Helias providing the crucial military assistance that allowed Henry, the youngest son of the conqueror, to make himself master of Normandy. Why, then, would Helias have chosen to help any son of the Conqueror to enhance his power? Many possible answers tothis question exist. Among the several that I consider are an explanation that sees their relationship based upon vertical bonds of lordship and vassalage, one that favors self-centered considerations of political interest, and one that acknowledges the importance of the type of warrior ethos exemplified by the Song of Roland and other epics - an ethos that emphasized aristocratic warfare and companionship. Yet, even while acknowledging the presence of these and other factors, I argue that the most important reason for Helias' presence at Tinchebrai in 1106 was the fact that he and Henry were very good friends.
      Friendship between secular figures is a dicey issue, however, since the brevity and nature of medieval sources often makes it difficult to distinguish friendship from common interest. Nevertheless, the evidence from Norman, Angevin and Manceaux chronicles suggests that Helias had established close personal connections with both Henry I and Geoffrey Martel (the eldest son and presumed heir of Count Fulk Réchin of Anjou, and like Helias an ally during Henry's Norman campaigns) during the tumultuous warfare that took place along the Norman-Manceau border during the late 1090s. I argue that these three men shared a common experience at that time as noble, but relatively powerless young men - men who, not yet entrusted with real authority, had to fight to retain their birthrights. In this sense their experiences in the 1090s were similar to Duby's juvenes, youths who had not yet settled down into marriage and responsibility and who formed bands of "friends" who loved each other "like brothers."
      The presence of Helias (and of Geoffrey Martel) in Henry I's Norman campaigns may thus be explained by the presence of close personal relations, ones described by various chroniclers as bonds of friendship andintimacy. I conclude the paper by suggesting that relationships basedupon such intangibles as emotion, personality, and honor were extremely important - as important, perhaps as the structural elements of politics that are so commonly emphasized. After all, decades of war in Maine were ended by the establishment of a personal relationship based upon familiaritas and common experience, not by a vertical bond of lordship, not by a marriage alliance, not even by geo- political interests. This is not to deny that social and political structures made a difference - it surely mattered that Henry was a king and Helias a count;it is, however, to argue that any attempt to understand the nature ofaristocratic society and of political events during this period must also wrestle with the slippery intangibles and must accept and acknowledge the role of personality and friendship.
    • Helias of Maine, Henry I and the Importance of Friendship
      In 1106 Henry I, King of England defeated his brother Robert Curthose, duke of Normandy, in battle near Tinchebrai. Yet the coup de grace during the battle was delivered not by Henry himself or by his familia, but by the troops of Maine and Anjou under the command of Helias, Count of Maine. Given the pattern of hostility existing between Normansand Manceaux since the 1060s, it seems quite interesting and not a little odd to find Count Helias providing the crucial military assistance that allowed Henry, the youngest son of the conqueror, to make himself master of Normandy. Why, then, would Helias have chosen to help any son of the Conqueror to enhance his power? Many possible answers tothis question exist. Among the several that I consider are an explanation that sees their relationship based upon vertical bonds of lordship and vassalage, one that favors self-centered considerations of political interest, and one that acknowledges the importance of the type of warrior ethos exemplified by the Song of Roland and other epics - an ethos that emphasized aristocratic warfare and companionship. Yet, even while acknowledging the presence of these and other factors, I argue that the most important reason for Helias' presence at Tinchebrai in 1106 was the fact that he and Henry were very good friends.
      Friendship between secular figures is a dicey issue, however, since the brevity and nature of medieval sources often makes it difficult to distinguish friendship from common interest. Nevertheless, the evidence from Norman, Angevin and Manceaux chronicles suggests that Helias had established close personal connections with both Henry I and Geoffrey Martel (the eldest son and presumed heir of Count Fulk Réchin of Anjou, and like Helias an ally during Henry's Norman campaigns) during the tumultuous warfare that took place along the Norman-Manceau border during the late 1090s. I argue that these three men shared a common experience at that time as noble, but relatively powerless young men - men who, not yet entrusted with real authority, had to fight to retain their birthrights. In this sense their experiences in the 1090s were similar to Duby's juvenes, youths who had not yet settled down into marriage and responsibility and who formed bands of "friends" who loved each other "like brothers."
      The presence of Helias (and of Geoffrey Martel) in Henry I's Norman campaigns may thus be explained by the presence of close personal relations, ones described by various chroniclers as bonds of friendship andintimacy. I conclude the paper by suggesting that relationships basedupon such intangibles as emotion, personality, and honor were extremely important - as important, perhaps as the structural elements of politics that are so commonly emphasized. After all, decades of war in Maine were ended by the establishment of a personal relationship based upon familiaritas and common experience, not by a vertical bond of lordship, not by a marriage alliance, not even by geo- political interests. This is not to deny that social and political structures made a difference - it surely mattered that Henry was a king and Helias a count;it is, however, to argue that any attempt to understand the nature ofaristocratic society and of political events during this period must also wrestle with the slippery intangibles and must accept and acknowledge the role of personality and friendship.
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      Name: Elias (Helie) Count Of MAINE
      Given Name: Elias (Helie) Count Of
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      Birth: Abt 1060 in Of, , Maine, France
      Death: 1110
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      Marriage 1 Matilde De CHATEAU DU LOIRE b: Abt 1055 in Of, Chateau Du Loire, , France
      Married: Bef 1092 in , , , France
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      Ermengarde (Ermentrude) Du MAINE b: 1096 in , , Maine, France

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    • Elias I of Maine
      From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Elias I (also Hélie or Élie; died 11 July 1110), called de la Flèche or de Baugency, was the Count of Maine from 1093. He was the son of the lord of La Flèche, John de Beaugency, and Paula, daughter of Herbert I of Maine.

      In 1093, when his cousin Hugh V died, he inherited Maine. With the support of Fulk IV of Anjou, he continued the war with Robert II of Normandy. After Robert's departure with the First Crusade, Elias made peace with William Rufus, Robert's regent in Normandy.

      Elias married Matilda, daughter of Gervais, Lord of Château-du-Loir. Their daughter, Eremburg, married Fulk V of Anjou. In 1109, Elias remarried to Agnes, the daughter of William VIII of Aquitaine and repudiated wife of Alfonso VI of Castile.

      [edit] Sources

      * FranceBalade: les seigneurs du Maine.
      * Foundation for Medieval Genealogy: comtes du Maine.
      * Hélias de la Flèche.
    • !DESCENT: Frederick Lewis Weis and Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., Ancestral Roots
      of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700, 7th ed., at 106
      (1992). Line 118-24.
    • [1352] WSHNGT.ASC file (Geo Washington Ahnentafel) # 8717890 = 2184130; or Elie

      http://uts.cc.utexas.edu/~churchh/edw3chrt.html#BEGIN Elias (Helie), Count MAINE (1060-1110)
    • It is reported that Helias, as 'Elie', inherited (or purchased) the co unty of Maine. He allied himself with the English and assisted in th e capture of Bayeux and Caen. He participated in the battle of Timche bray in 1106. Under Norman rule, he severd as Count of Maine from 109 3 - 1110.
    • GIVN Helias Count
      SURN von Maine
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    • Name Prefix: Count Name Suffix: of Maine
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    Last Modified 2 Jun 2020 

    Father Jean de Beaugency, Seigneur de la Fleche,   b. Abt 1042, Fleche, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1097, Fleche, Sarthe, Pays de la Loire, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 54 years) 
    Mother Paula du Maine,   b. Abt 1034, Fleche, Sarthe, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1096  (Age ~ 62 years) 
    Family ID F6000000000305223239  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Mathilde de Château-du-Loir,   b. 1055, Château-du-Loir, France Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 27 Mar 1099, Maine, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 44 years) 
    Married Abt 1091  FRANCE Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Ermengarde de Beaugency,   b. 1 Jul 1092, LeMans Maine Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Jan 1126, Maine Poitou-s Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 33 years)
    Last Modified 14 Mar 2021 
    Family ID F6000000010311774261  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart