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John l "the Red" Comyn, Earl of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway[1]

Male Abt 1223 - Abt 1278  (~ 55 years)


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  • Name John l "the Red" Comyn 
    Suffix Earl of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway 
    Born Abt 1223 
    Gender Male 
    Occupation Justiciar, Lord Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway 
    Occupation Justiciar of Galloway Find all individuals with events at this location 
    unknown 
    Died Abt 1278 
    Notes 
    • {geni:about_me} '''NOTE: The various John Comyns seem to have become confused and wives and children seem to be attached to this one in error, as documented sources only list the two wives shown below: Eve Stewart and Alicia Roos
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      Sir John "the Red" Comyn, Earl of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway1,2,3,4,5

      d. circa 18 July 1278

      Father: Richard Cumin, Lord Badenoch1 d. c 1249

      Sir John "the Red" Comyn, Earl of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway married Eve Stewart, daughter of Walter Stewart, 3rd Great Steward and Beatrix of Angus, circa 1240; They had 3 sons (William; Sir John; & Alexander) and 4 daughters ((unnamed), wife of Sir Godfrey/Geoffrey Mowbray; (unnamed), wife of Sir Alexander of Argyll; Mary, wife of Sir Richard Siward; & (unnamed), wife of Sir Andrew Moray).1,3,4

      Sir John "the Red" Comyn, Earl of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway married Alicia de Roos, daughter of Sir William de Roos and Lucia FitzPiers, circa 1260; They had 2 sons (Sir John; & Sir Robert) and 1 daughter (Alice).1,2,4,5 Sir John "the Red" Comyn, Earl of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway died circa 18 July 1278.4

      '''Family 1 Eve Stewart d. b 1260'''

      Children John 'the Black' Comyn+3 d. c 26 May 1302

      (Miss) Comyn+

      Julienne Comyn+

      '''Family 2 Alicia de Roos d. c 29 Apr 1286'''

      Children:

      Sir John Comyn+6,1,4 b. c 1270, d. bt 1308 - 1321

      Robert Comyn+7 b. c 1272

      Citations
      [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 475.
      [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 446.
      [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 232.
      [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. II, p. 206-207.
      [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 487.
      [S15] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, p. 201-202.
      [S61] Unknown author, Family Group Sheets, Family History Archives, SLC.

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      '''John I Comyn''', Lord of Badenoch

      From Wikipedia

      John Comyn (Cumyn) (born c. 1215, died c. 1275) was Lord of Badenoch in Scotland. He was justiciar of Galloway in 1258[1][2]. He held lands in Nithsdale[3] (Dalswinton, a Comyn stronghold[4][5], and Duncow[6]) and Tynedale[3].

      Life

      The Comyn family were in effective power in Scotland from 1249 to 1255, when Alexander III of Scotland was a minor; John was one of those with court influence[3]. The Comyns were ousted, by Alan Durward, but returned to power in 1257-8, before provoking a strong English reaction[7].

      He fought for Henry III of England at the Battle of Lewes (1265), with John Baliol the elder and Robert Bruce the elder[8]; he was captured[9]. In 1267 he was given license to crenellate Tarset Castle in Tynedale (by present-day Lanehead, near Hexham), by Henry III[10]; Tarset had previously been held by Walter Comyn[11].

      He started castle construction at Blair Castle with a tower built in 1269.[12] The place was soon taken back by David, Earl of Atholl[13].

      Family

      John was the son of a '''Richard Comyn''' and was the grandson (through Richard) of '''William Comyn''', jure uxoris Earl of Buchan.

      According to the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica he '''died in 1274''', and was nephew of Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland), and of Walter Comyn, Earl of Mentieth [14]. His date of death is also given as 1277[15].

      He succeeded his uncle Walter, in 1258, as Lord of Badenoch, and was succeeded by his son John II, the "Black Comyn". John I was known as the "Red Comyn", the nickname more commonly applied to his grandson [16].

      His '''second wife is given as Alice de Roos (Ros)['''17], '''or Alice de Lindsay of Lamberton'''[15]. His first wife was called '''Eva'''.

      His children, at least four sons and four daughters, included:

      '''John II'''

      '''a daughter''' who married Alexander of Argyll[15]

      '''a daughter''' who married Sir William Galbraith, 4th Chief of that Ilk, Lord of Kyncaith[18]

      '''a daughter''' who married Galfrid de Mowbray[19]

      Notes

      ^ G. W. S. Barrow, The Kingdom of the Scots: Government, Church and Society from the Eleventh to the Fourteenth Century (2003), p. 86.
      ^ Michael Brown, The Wars of Scotland (2004), p. 53.
      ^ a b c Concise Dictionary of National Biography
      ^ Overview of Dalswinton
      ^ http://lmid1.rcahms.gov.uk/pls/portal/newcanmore.details_gis?inumlink=65896
      ^ Historical perspective for Nithsdale
      ^ Michael Prestwich, Plantagenet England 1225-1360 (2005), p. 230.
      ^ Battle of Lewes, May 14, 1264
      ^ Battlefield Report (PDF), p. 5.
      ^ Tarset Castle Licence to Crenellate
      ^ Tarset Castle
      ^ http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/canmore/details_gis?inumlink=25802
      ^ A Guide To Blair Castle, Perth and Kinross, From TourUK
      ^ John Comyn - LoveToKnow 1911
      ^ a b c Scottish Nobility
      ^ Clan Comyn
      ^ Douglas Richardson, Kimball G. Everingham, Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families (2005), p. 210; gives his death as in 1273-8.
      ^ Clan Galbraith Association Galbraiths of the Lennox
      ^ Medieval English genealogy: Which John de Mowbray was the Brother of Christiana de Plumpton?

      '''Sir John Comyn'''

      M, d. after 1273, #10950

      Father Richard Comyn2,3 d. between 1244 and 1249
      Name Variation Sir John Comyn was also styled The (first) Red Comyn.4
      Marriage* He married Amabilia (?).1
      Title* He held the title of Lord of Badenoch in 1258.3
      Occupation* He was Justiciar of Galloway before 18 March 1258/59.3
      Event-Misc* Grant to Jn. Cumyn and heirs during fidelity the gift wh. K. David (1124-1153) made to his g.g.f. Richard Comyn and w. Histilla, d. of Ughtred fil. Waldef, which gift was confirmed by K. Hen. II, of Ughtred's lands in Tindale. On 8 February 1262.4

      Event-Misc Grant to Jn. C. that in passing from Scotland to England on K's mandate he may take 2 or 3 deer from every forest. On 19 September 1267.4

      Event-Misc Lic. to enlarge and fortify his Manor house of Tyrsete, Northumb. On 5 December 1267.4

      Event-Misc K. will grant to him £300 p.a. confiscated lands on 19 December 1267.4

      Event-Misc Grant of £200 from forest fines in Cumb. to be paid 19 May 1275 on 15 May 1271.4

      Death* He died after 1273.1

      Death He died His wid. Amabilia nominates Nicholas Comyn and others as her attorneys in Ireland before 26 June 1278.4

      Family Amabilia (?)

      Marriage* He married Amabilia (?).1

      Children

      Sir John Comyn d. c 1303

      Robert Comyn

      William Comyn d. b 2 Jun 1291

      John "le jeon" Comyn

      (?) Comyn

      (?) Comyn

      (?) Comyn

      (?) Comyn

      (?) Comyn


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      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_III_Comyn,_Lord_of_Badenoch
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      John was the son of a Richard Comyn [???] and was the grandson (through Richard) of William Comyn, jure uxoris Earl of Buchan.

      According to the 1911 Encyclopædia Britannica he died in 1274, and was nephew of Alexander Comyn, Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland), and of Walter Comyn, Earl of Mentieth.[14] His date of death is also given as 1277.[15]

      He succeeded his uncle Walter, in 1258, as Lord of Badenoch, and was succeeded by his son John II, the "Black Comyn". John I was known as the "Red Comyn", the nickname more commonly applied to his grandson.[16]

      His second wife is given as Alice de Roos (Ros),[17] or Alice de Lindsay of Lamberton.[15] His first wife was called Eva.

      His children, at least four sons and four daughters, included:

      # John II
      # a daughter who married Alexander of Argyll[15]
      # a daughter who married Sir William Galbraith, 4th Chief of that Ilk, Lord of Kyncaith[18]
      # a daughter who married Galfrid de Mowbray[19]
      # a daughter who married Sir Andrew Moray[20]


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      * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_I_Comyn,_Lord_of_Badenoch
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      Notes
      1 - In the reign of Alexander III, as stated by Fordun, there were of the name in Scotland three Comyn Earls - Buchan, Menteith, and Athole, and one great feudal baron, Cumyn lord of Strathbogie, with thirty knights all possessing lands. The chief of the clan was lord of Badenoch and Lochaber, and other extensive districts in the Highlands. Upwards of sixty belted knights were bound to follow his banner with all their vassals, and he made treaties with princes as a prince himself. One such compact with Lewellyn of Wales is preserved in Rymer's Foedera.

      2 - Stirnet Comyn01 shows only child by his wife Marian of Galloway was son Robert, ancestor of the Cumming family. [7]

      Sources
      [S265] Colquoun_Cunningham.ged, Jamie Vans

      [S289] Betty and Dick Field's Family History, Richard Field

      [S386] Macdonald genealogy, Roddy Macdonald of the Clan Donald Society of Edinburgh, (http://www.clandonald.org.uk/genealogy.htm), genealogy/d0000/g0000044.html#I1284 (Reliability: 3)

      [S675] Mackenzies, History of the, Alexander Mackenzie, ([ History Of The Mackenzies by Alexander Mackenzie, NEW, REVISED, AND EXTENDED EDITION pub 1894 ] http://www.fullbooks.com/History-Of-The-Mackenzies1.html), Part 1 (Reliability: 3)

      [S284] Oxford University Press, (Oxford University Press)

      [S386] Macdonald genealogy, Roddy Macdonald of the Clan Donald Society of Edinburgh, (http://www.clandonald.org.uk/genealogy.htm), genealogy/d0006/g0000043.html#I1283 (Reliability: 3)

      [S332] www.electricscotland.com, http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/atoc/cumming2.html (Reliability: 3)
    • Source #1: Frederick Lewis Weis, "Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America Before 1700" - Seventh Edition, with additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard, Jr., assisted by Davis Faris (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Co, 1995), p. 108

      "The Red Comyn #1"
    • Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d 10.02.1305-6) Sir John's mother's mother's mother was Margaret of Huntingdon. Through this connection he had a strong claim to the Scots throne (given that that Margaret was elder sister of the Isobel of Huntingdon through whom Robert the Bruce had his claim). He was murdered by that Robert Bruce, after which the latter had himself crowned.
    Person ID I6000000005597656201  Ancestors of Donald Ross
    Last Modified 21 Feb 2021 

    Father Richard Comyn, Lord of Badenoch,   b. 1194, Altyre, Morayshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jul 1249, Badenoch, Inverness, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 55 years) 
    Family ID F6000000002188738774  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Eve N.N.,   b. Abt 1224 
    Children 
     1. John The Black Comyn, II,   b. 1242, Badenoch Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1303, Lochindorb Castle Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 61 years)
     2. NN de Comyn,   b. Abt 1251,   d. Abt 1337, Dunstaffnage Castle Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 86 years)
    Last Modified 14 Mar 2021 
    Family ID F6000000023330194418  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart