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- {geni:about_me} '''ERMENGARDE''' de Lorraine or Lower Lotharingia ([970/75]-after 1013).
According to the [http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm#ErmengardisMAlbertNamur FMG Medieval Lands database]:
*The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Karolus dux" was father of "Ermengardem et Gerbergam"[207]. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium, on the other hand, names "Hermegardam Namursi cometissam" as only daughter of "Ottoni duci Lotharingiæ", son of Duke Charles[208]. The latter appears chronologically impossible in light of the sources discussed in the document NAMUR which attest Ermengarde as the mother of at least three of her husband's children.
*The Fundatio Ecclesiæ S Albani Namucensis is less specific on Ermengarde's origin when it names her son "comes Albertus secundus, ortus ex patre Lothariensi" referring to his mother as "matre vero Francigena Ermengarde, nobilissimam Francorum regum prosapiam trahente"[209].
*The birth date range of Ermengarde is estimated on the basis of her having been the mother of all Comte Albert's recorded children. Her marriage date is suggested by Richer, who does not name her among the children of her father when the family was imprisoned in 991: "Karolum…cum uxore Adelaide et filio Ludovico, et filiabus duabus, quarum altera Gerberga, altera Adelaidis dicebatur, necnon et Arnulfo nepote"[210].
*This presumably indicates that her marriage predated this imprisonment.
*It has been suggested that Ermengarde was Albert [I]'s second wife, considering the likely difference in their ages[211]. If this is correct, it is unlikely that there were any surviving children from his earlier marriage as Albert's successor (presumably his eldest son) was the son of his surviving wife, presumably Ermengarde, as shown by the Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium which records that "Rotberdo Namurcensi comite" betrayed Lambert Comte de Louvain after the battle of Hougaerde (dated to 1013) and that Lambert, captured by "Herimannum…comitem", was released after the intervention of "Rotbodi…comitis mater"[212].
m (990) '''ALBERT [I] Comte de Namur''', son of ROBERT [I] Comte de Namur & his wife --- (-shortly before 1011).
Comte Albert I & Ermengarde had [six] children:
*1. '''ROBERT de Namur''' (-before 1031). The Fundatio Ecclesiæ S Albani Namucensis names "comes Albertus secundus, ortus ex patre Lothariensi, matre vero Francigena Ermengarde, nobilissimam Francorum regum prosapiam trahente"[39], which is assumed to indicate that Comte Albert and Ermengardis were the parents of Robert. He succeeded as '''ROBERT II Comte de Namur'''. The Gesta Episcoporum Cameracensium records that "Rotberdo Namurcensi comite" betrayed Lambert Comte de Louvain after the battle of Hougaerde (dated to 1013), that Lambert was captured by "Herimannum…comitem" but released after the intervention of "Rotbodi…comitis mater"[40]. The Miracula Sancti Veroni names "comitem Ratbodum" when recording that he recovered from fever after being taken to the relics of St Veronus[41]. "Heinricus…Romanorum imperator augustus" brought under his protection the abbey of Saint-Jean de Florennes "in pago et in comitatu Lommensi sitam, cuius nunc comes adest Ratbodus", founded by Gerard Bishop of Cambrai, by charter dated 1018[42]. m ---. No reference has been found to the wife of Comte Robert II.
*2. '''ALBERT de Namur''' (-[1063/64]). The Genealogica comitum Buloniensium records that "Ermengardis" was mother of "Albertum comitem de Namuco"[44]. He succeeded his brother as '''ALBERT II Comte de Namur'''. He founded Saint-Aubain at Namur, as shown by the Fundatio Ecclesiæ S Albani Namucensis which records "comes Albertus secundus, ortus ex patre Lothariensi, matre vero Francigena Ermengarde, nobilissimam Francorum regum prosapiam trahente" as founder of the church[45]. The Gesta Episcoporum Leodiensium records "bellum apud Rivoniam" in 1048 where "Albertus Namucensis" was killed by "Godefrido duce"[46].
**-m REGELINDIS of Lower Lotharingia, daughter of GOZELON I Duke of Lower Lotharingia & his wife ---. The Fundatio ecclesiæ Sancti Albani Namurcensis refers to the wife of "comes Albertus secundus" as "Gothelonis ducis filia" but does not name her[47]. The Chronicon Hanoniense names "Gosseclone ducis Lotharingie…[filia] Raelendem" as wife of "Alberto comiti"[48]. The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Godefridum ducem, Odam et Regelindam" as children of "Gozelo, frater Arnulphi et Godefridi"[49]. Her birth date range is estimated from her eldest son being born before 1035. She was given Durbuy as her dowry by her father.
*3. '''HADWIDE de Namur''' ([1005/10]-28 Jan [1080]). The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [filiæ Karoli ducis]" and as mother of "Theodericum ducem et Gerardum comitem fratres"[54]. It is likely that Hedwig was born during that latter part of the married life of her parents, given her own death in [1080] and her father's death before 1010. The Liber Memoriales of Remiremont records the donation of "Haduydis ducissa…consentientibus filiis suis duce Teoderico atque comite Girardo"[55]. "Hadewidis ductrix" founded the abbey of Châtenois by charter dated to after 1075, confirmed "post obitum ductricis Hadewidis" by "dux Theodericus filius eius"[56].
**-m GERARD Duke of Upper Lotharingia, son of GERHARD Graf & his wife Gisela --- (-Remiremont [14 Apr] or 11 Aug [1070]).
*4. ['''LIUTGARDE [Emma] de Namur''' . The Genealogica ex Stirpe Sancti Arnulfi names "Hadewidem et Emmam de Los" as the two daughters of "Ermengardis [filiæ Karoli ducis]"[57]. The primary sources are contradictory regarding the identify of Liutgarde´s husband. The Gesta Abbatem Trudonensium names "Lutgarde filia Hermegardis Namurcensis comitissæ, Ottonis prefati ducis filie" as wife of "Ottonis comitis de Los", and the couple as parents of Baldric [II] Bishop of Liège[58]. From a chronological point of view, it is impossible for a daughter of Albert I Comte de Namur and his wife Ermengarde (married in 990) to have been the mother of Baldric Bishop of Liège (installed as bishop in 1008). Another version is provided by the Vita Arnulfi which names "Lugerdam, Godam, Ermengardam" as the three sisters of "Albertus comes Namurcensis", adding that Liutgarde was the mother of "Emmonem et Ottonem fratrem eius"[59]. No primary source has so far been found which names the father of the brothers Emmo and Otto. From a chronological point of view, it is possible that their father was Giselbert, son of Otto. If this is correct, it is possible that Liutgarde´s husband was Giselbert Comte de Looz.
**-[m OTTO Comte [de Looz], son of [RUDOLF & his wife ---] (-[before 1016]).]
**-[m GISELBERT Comte de Looz, son of OTTO Comte [de Looz] & his wife --- (-[1044/46]).]
*5. '''GODA de Namur''' . The Vita Arnulfi names "Lugerdam, Godam, Ermengardam" as the three sisters of "Albertus comes Namurcensis", specifying that Goda was mother of "Meinsindam matrem sancti Arnulfi episcopi Suessioniæ"[60], although this may not be a reliable source as it is inaccurate in recording the descendants of Goda's supposed sister Liutgarde. m ---. No indication has been found about the identity of Goda´s husband.
*6. '''ERMENGARDE de Namur''' . The Vita Arnulfi names "Lugerdam, Godam, Ermengardam" as the three sisters of "Albertus comes Namurcensis"[64].
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Ermengard van Lotharingen, overl. na 1047, waarschijnlijk in 1049, tr. Albert I, graaf van Namen, vermeld vanaf 981, wordt door Otto III belast met de bescherming van de abdij Brogne 31 maart of 30 april 992, overl. kort voor 1011, zoon van Robert I, graaf in (een deel van) de Lommegouw en Ermengard van Verdun.
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Died : Eft 1022
- Source: 'Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants',Langston & Buck, 1986, p 197. 'Ancestral Roots of Certain AmericanColonists ...', Frederick Lewis Weis, 1993, p 131.[Custer February 1,2002 Family Tree.FTW]
[merge G675.FTW]
Source: 'Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants',Langston & Buck, 1986, p 197. 'Ancestral Roots of Certain AmericanColonists ...', Frederick Lewis Weis, 1993, p 131.
- _P_CCINFO 2-2438
- Source: 'Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants',Langston & Buck, 1986, p 197. 'Ancestral Roots of Certain AmericanColonists ...', Frederick Lewis Weis, 1993, p 131.
- Line 3957 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
BAPL 31 DEC 1932 AZ / 28 MAY 1991
Line 3958 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
ENDL 5 JAN 1933 AZ / 8 NOV 1991 SLAKE
- Ancestral File Number: 9G82-3V
- [large-G675.FTW]
Source: 'Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants',Langston & Buck, 1986, p 197. 'Ancestral Roots of Certain AmericanColonists ...', Frederick Lewis Weis, 1993, p 131.
from "Our Folk" by Albert D Hart, Jr.
- BORN ABOUT 970-975
- Name Suffix: [COUNTESS OF NA
Ancestral File Number: 9GDD-S9
- Ancestral File Number: 9G82-3V
- This individual was found on GenCircles at: http://www.gencircles.com/users/tondhwr/9/data/1815
- Also have birth as ca 970 in Lorraine, France. [Betz homepage http://info.lu.farmingdale.edu/~betzja/gene]
- 32nd great grandmother
- 31st great grandmother
- Invalid endowment temple code: Slak.
- Line 3957 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
BAPL 31 DEC 1932 AZ / 28 MAY 1991
Line 3958 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long:
ENDL 5 JAN 1933 AZ / 8 NOV 1991 SLAKE
- !BIRTH: "Royal Ancestors" by Michel Call - Based on Call Family Pedigrees FHL
film 844805 & 844806, Family History Library, Salt Lake City, UT. Copy of
"Royal Ancestors" owned by Lynn Bernhard, Orem, UT.
Data From Lynn Jeffrey Bernhard, 2445 W 450 South #4, Springville UT 84663-4950
email - bernhardengineer@netscape.net
- GIVN Ermengarde (Adelaide) Prinzessin
SURN von Frankreich
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- GIVN Ermengarde Countess
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- GIVN Ermengarde (Adelaide) Prinzessin
SURN von Frankreich
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- Weis: this was her second marriage
- Weis, p. 131
- Name Suffix: Of France
- Seal to Parents: @I264825@
- gravin
- gravin
- Note: AR has Ermengarde as dau. of Charles by his 2nd wife (m. bef. 979) Adelheid. However Alan B. Wilson, reporting on the work of Settipani, has her as daughter of Otto Duke of Lower Lorraine, son of Charles by his 1st wife. Thus Ermengarde is granddaughter, not daughter, of Charles.
- GIVN Ermengarde (Adelaide) Prinzessin
SURN von Frankreich
REPO @REPO80@
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- GIVN Ermengarde Countess
SURN von Vermandois
REPO @REPO80@
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Source Media Type: Family Archive CD
PAGE Tree #1319
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TEXT Date of Import: 25 Dez 1998
REPO @REPO80@
TITL World Family Tree Vol. 1, Ed. 1
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- Source: 'Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants',Langston & Buck, 1986, p 197. 'Ancestral Roots of Certain AmericanColonists ...', Frederick Lewis Weis, 1993, p 131.
- Source: 'Pedigrees of Some of the Emperor Charlemagne's Descendants',Langston & Buck, 1986, p 197. 'Ancestral Roots of Certain AmericanColonists ...', Frederick Lewis Weis, 1993, p 131.
- #Générale#Source :
Décès : web, FUNDP, Pour une prosopographie des comtes de Namur (Xesiècle-1429), http://www.fundp.ac.be/philo_lettres/histoire/prosop00.htm
- [Toni.ged]
Invalid endowment temple code: Slak.
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